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Why didn't archers just wipe out legions and phalanxes?
I mean, these formation--especially the phalanx--were pretty slow compared to unarmored archers or slingers. Even with all their armor, after being pelted by arrows (or for that matter, sling bullets) for long enough, wouldn't even these famous tactical formations have been wiped out? Why didn't ancient armies just train up thousands of archers or slingers?
Well, it's hard to train archers so that they can shoot far *and* fast. In England they managed it by banning soccer, and forced archery exercise with the longbow for all able men. Hence the outcome of the battles of Crecy (1346), Poitiers (1356), and Agincourt (1415).
But on the Continent, the Nobility - who constituted the cavalry - would never allow the Commoners in the archery troops to win a battle! They would prefer to hire more Swiss mercenaries, with their halberds and rapid close-quarter maneuvering, then to mobilize more archers. Hence the Battle of the Golden Spurs AKA The Battle of Courtrai (1302).
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Who would win: Spartans V Assyrians?
1000 of Leonidas's best men (hoplites with pikes, bronze/linen armor and round shields and a few slingers) against an equally-sized Assyrian army (spearmen with iron lamellar armor, charioteers and mounted archers) considered by many to be the Nazis of the ancient world for their brutality and effective tactics.
Who would win and why?
http://www.historum.com/showthread.php?t=3859
Don't forget to say why you think that (skills, resources, armor, technology, training, leadership etc).
10 points for the most convincing answer.
Yes, i know the story of 300. Everyone knows they're fierce warriors trained from birth but in this scenario they're facing a well-equipped army equally ruthless (probably even tougher than the Romans) and feared throughout the Biblical Lands.
Nobody has yet said why the Spartans would defeat the Assyrians or the tactics they would use against them.
Ammianus has the right idea. It depends on the terrain. Cavalry and chariots wouldn't be much use in mountains or forests. On an open plain they would sweep any infantry away. The Spartans would be trapped in a phalanx.
If there was a scenario where the Spartans were called to hold a position or attack a position I'm sure they would win.
The Spartans DID have cavalry by the way.
Of you want to read about the defeat of the Spartans look up the Battle of Leuctra when they were defeated by the Thebans.
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