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Luftwaffe Field
What were the German Air Forces' (Luftwaffe) aircraft divisions.?
Not the field divisions, paratrooper divisions, or antiaircraft divisions. The actual aircraft divisions themselves.
Airborne Divisions
In order to keep its existence secret, the first German airborne division was named as if a Flieger ("flier") division in the series of Luftwaffe divisions that controlled air assets rather than ground troops:
7th Flieger Division (often translated 7th Air Division)
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The division was later reorganized to start a series of nominally airborne divisions. Though named Fallschirmjäger ("paratrooper") divisions, most were not actually trained for airdrops, and in practice all operated as ordinary motorized infantry throughout their existence. The lower-numbered ones maintaned an élite status, but quality generally declined among the higher-numbered ones.
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The 18th Luftwaffe Field Division
B-17's & B-24's: were the .50 machineguns actually effective as defensive armament?
Cetainly the tailgunners' weapons would have actually been able to shoot down enemy fighters; perhaps the ball turrets might have been of some value against stern attacks.
But considering the enemy fighters would have been attacking frontally at collision speeds of about 700 mph (over one thousand feet per second), and that the waist gunners had such limited fields of fire, it does not seem like most of those fifty calibers mg's would have been of any value (except as morale boosters).
Do you think this is true?
In other words, do you think that a significant number of German or Jap fighters would have actually been damaged/destroyed by the B-17/B-24 defensive fifties?
More likely, it seems like those heavy four engine bombers would have been sitting ducks for almost any (mildly experienced) enemy fighter pilot.
I wonder if any Jap or Luftwaffe fighter pilot has ever commented on this subject?
You have a point... which was the reason for the engineer's turret on the top of the aircraft, AND the addition of a remote chin turret on the B-17G.
The second answerer was also correct in the fact that the bombers flew in formations meant to maximize the effect of the guns.
And YOU are correct that the CLOSING speed during a head-on engagment would be around 700+mph
I've read descriptions that suggest the guns were quite effective against German fighters... as LONG as the formation was intact. Here is ONE description of some missions: http://www.greenharbor.com/ROHPDF/ROHMJ43.pdf
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